Help with App Privacy settings in App Store Connect

ma

FliplineStudios You can use the User Messaging Platform in the Adverts ANE to present the authorisation dialog, however we generally have chosen to go the more direct route using the IDFA ANE.

https://support.google.com/fundingchoices/answer/9995402

Shaun_Max

ma so i gathered more information. please correct me if I am wrong.

we need to ask users permission to display ads in iOS as its using IDFA for user tracking. Better to ask the permission in the first app load & when ever they are interested to watch ads.

we need to give users the option to view only personalized ads, in this way it will benefit all of the parties. If we don't, then user will be exposed to random ads.

ma I believe, onesignal & google analytics also use IDFA right? if yes, what will happen to those services, if user declines tracking permission?

Shaun_Max

zoobuffalo i told you so!

ma

Shaun_Max I believe the usage in GA and OneSignal have fail overs if IDFA isn't available.

Shaun_Max

ma sorry, i didn't understand. are you saying on iOS 14 if user denies permission both GA & Onesignal will stop working???? or both will work as normal but user cannot be tracked.

ma

I meant that they have processes to fall back on if the idfa is not available, so they will continue working though may be in some limited capacity. You should contact them directly though to confirm I am not an expert on their internal implementations.

zoobuffalo

I'm gonna re-work my game to not use ads! Can't deal!

Shaun_Max

zoobuffalo but why? all we have to do is to display the permission option for each install. Also i believe even if you remove it you still have to use it for GA, pushnotifications & any other 3rd party sdk in use.

zoobuffalo

🙂 I do this for fun. And these parts are so not fun. Paid apps only (no fancy other ANEs either) from now on for me!

pol2095

you can see here too

Shaun_Max

guys! i just checked few apps on the app Store & none of them are asking permission for IDFA???

Is there something I don't know? my app works fine so far in the app Store.

ma

Shaun_Max I don't know whether Apple will enforce asking for it or allow apps to continue without it (you do need to complete the new privacy declaration correctly though).

What happens if you don't ask is (as far as I can tell) that you just get an invalid idfa returned so any services providing personalised ads or tracking of your users with the idfa will fail. Normally this is silent and won't affect your app directly. Indirectly though you will no longer be able to target ads, which will eventually lead to a decrease in income (how much though I can't tell you, depends on users etc).

So while people like Facebook are worried about it, I don't think you should stress unless you are trying to get every possible dollar out of ads in your app. With one of our apps our client has just decided to not ask at all. They will take the loss with non-targeted ads instead.

Shaun_Max

ma Yep! got it 👍 I am also going to do the same thing. I don't care about the attribution or ad revenues. The game must go on...

zoobuffalo

Oh, so you can get away without asking? In that case would I not include the NSUserTrackingUsageDescription in my manifest?

ma

zoobuffalo Yeah, I'm not sure what Apple's review policy will be on this but seems to have worked for us recently.

zoobuffalo

I'll give it a shot at the weekend and report back!

zoobuffalo

OK, success! Removed "NSUserTrackingUsageDescription" and was able to get the app through Apple's review 😃 At last, and I didn't have to rework the app to not use apps after all...

darkcc

OH
My 1 app have been rejected yesterday

Last week, my 3 apps have been accepted, these 3 apps use admob UMP and distriqt's ANE.
So, it will show GDPR and App Tracking Transparency permission request before play ads

But yesterday, when I update it, they said.....

Regarding 5.1.1, we still noticed that a message appears before the permission request, and to proceed users press a “Consent” button.
To resolve this issue, it would be appropriate to revise the permission request to use words like "Continue" or "Next" on the button instead.

Some reviewer don't know what is GDPR, they only know App Tracking Transparency permission request.
but you know, GDPR is need to be consent! use continue or next? it's kidding~

But one of my app, when I explained what is GDPR and it need to be consent, that app was accepted.
but another is not, it still ask me to modify the word "consent" to be "Continue" or "Next" in GDPR.
Fine, I give up~

It seems to mean that Apple's reviewer don't have a standard rules

I will update mp app later, maybe they have a standard rules to handle it
The worst situation is not use UMP to show GDPR...

If you guys have a best way, we could discuss that...

ma

Apple really aren't playing nice with the ATT integration are they!?

I haven't attempted to get a review done with UMP presenting the ATT but does it display it immediately after the GDPR form?

A simple solution (which is what I've done for our apps) is to just use the IDFA ANE and directly present the ATT auth dialog separately.

IDFA.service.requestAuthorisation(
        function( authorisationStatus:String ):void
        {
            trace( authorisationStatus );
        }
);

https://github.com/distriqt/ANE-IDFA/wiki/u.Get-Advertising-Identifier#authorisation

darkcc

ma
Yeap~
UMP will show GDPR then show ATT.....
I think it is a problem, we could not except every Apple's reviewer know what is GDPR...
Most of them just consider that....
what is that? a custom form to proceed users press a “Consent” button"?

It is impossible to explain every time to them, it will waste our life

So, I think that the order to show might be adjust to

App Tracking Transparency permission request when launching app
GDPR after ATT or before play ads

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